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    • ian57
      ian57 Staff @aTg last edited by ian57

      @aTg It is a VGA66 adapter + a simple PWM lowpass filter on GPIO 12/13 for the sound integrated on a scart board, isn't it ? Simple 😄

      The idea to make it as small as possible to be included in the Scart plug is good and elegant. But with the use of gpio, you need use USB pads or usb arcade encoder. The HDMI-VGA solution allows to use the GPIO for control panel.

      Each solution has advantages and drawbacks.

      "UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity." Dennis Ritchie

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      • Scandy
        Scandy @Substring last edited by Scandy

        @subs I mean that when I'll buy the Pi2JAMMA and/or RGB-PI I really hope to not be limited to a single distro (e.g. RGB-PI working only on Retropie) but I really hope that it will be (software-side) "platform-independent". 😉

        @aTg your project is great, I really hope it will be also affordable for people who cannot solder like me. At the moment do you have a single resolution for emulator or different resolutions for each game? Thanks! 😉

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          @Scandy some parts are OS-dependant, we can't avoid that ... Despite have the same goal, retropie and recalbox do it in different ways ... The hardware part can be done rather easily (buildroot is not such a freaky beast), but supporting this hardware to its full potential can be os-linked. Up to the developpers to make the best of it, limit wbat depends on the OS as much as possible

          @aTg i'll answer you once i check a few things 🙂

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          • aTg
            aTg @ian57 last edited by aTg

            @ian57 Very easy but no one had done it, besides it is necessary to compile an overlay specifically for it.

            I am working on another version for jamma where you will also have a port expander with 32 inputs and power for the RPI included by the gpio. Of course also with sound and RGB.
            This version is designed for crt televisions, not for arcade cabinets.

            The one who wants to use this in an arcade jamma cab wait to jamma-pi

            Each emulator (console) already has its own original resolution except mame.

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              Substring @aTg last edited by

              @aTg each crt console has several resolutions depending on the games ...

              For arcade, i have an idea for standard horizontal games, not yet for vertical ones ... But anything that tweaks hdmi timings is os-dependant unless you write a wrapper for retroarch + some "database"

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              • aTg
                aTg last edited by

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7tBX-DgD_g

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                • Substring
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                  Hey guyz,

                  I've been working really hard for 2 days for a Mame Resolution "DB", heree's an excerpt :

                  8080bw_drivers.c  einnings  0         m4            (8080bw)       ROT0         256x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  shuffle   0         shuffle       (8080bw)       ROT90        256x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  dogpatch  0         clowns        (8080bw)       ROT0         256x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  spcenctr  0         spcenctr      (8080bw)       ROT0         256x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  phantom2  0         phantom2      (8080bw)       ROT0         240x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  bowler    0         bowler        (8080bw)       ROT90        280x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  invaders  0         invaders      (8080bw)       ROT270       240x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  blueshrk  0         blueshrk      (8080bw)       ROT0         256x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  invad2ct  0         invad2ct      (8080bw)       ROT90        256x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  invaddlx  invadpt2  invaders      (8080bw)       ROT270       240x224
                  8080bw_drivers.c  sitv      invaders  invaders      (8080bw)       ROT270       240x224
                  

                  I could get 100% of Mame 0.78 resolutions by combining different sources. From that, we can do anything 🙂

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                  • aTg
                    aTg last edited by aTg

                    It seems that we have been working on the same lately, I already have a prototype for arcade machines working, the look will be this one.

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                    Characteristics:
                    Jamma connector
                    RPi power from the jamma connector
                    Over voltage protection and over current fuse
                    RGB 15kHz
                    A single filtered sound channel
                    Port Expander with extra button inputs
                    All in one pcb without any cable

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                    • ajefr
                      ajefr last edited by ajefr

                      Already working 😉
                      http://www.neo-arcadia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=54733

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4pR3LKDCPw

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                      • Substring
                        Substring @ajefr last edited by

                        @ajefr This is not exactly the same :

                        • RPI2JAMMA doesn't handle the sound out from GPIO, but from the jack output
                        • RPI2JAMMA is mostly for JAMMA, where as we are, for now, more looking into a SCART system
                        • I didn't get how you handle inputs

                        Do you have a documentation on how to plug everything ?

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                        • aTg
                          aTg last edited by aTg

                          If my version incorporates the sound by the GPIO and is much smaller, I hope the opinion of the community if you think it interesting to continue with the development of jamma-pi or you think that with rpi2jamma is enough.

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                          • ian57
                            ian57 Staff last edited by

                            @ajefr @aTg I think that the thing that will make the difference is the software support 😉

                            "UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity." Dennis Ritchie

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                            • Substring
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                              Both are great. Rpi2jamma is great for jamma-wired cabs, aTg's device is for crt only, like back in the old days 🙂

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                              • aTg
                                aTg @Substring last edited by aTg

                                @Substring I am thinking in launch a version for jamma but im not sure.

                                I see that rpi2jamma is very expensive, could drastically reduce its cost, size and number of components.

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                                • Akik
                                  Akik last edited by

                                  J'ai enfin mis la main sur une petite Trinitron de 36cm, je vais pouvoir me lancer dans le CRT en RGB grâce à ce post. Merci ! C'est une Sony KV-14LM1B.

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                                  • aTg
                                    aTg last edited by

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                                    • aTg
                                      aTg last edited by

                                      I have finished assembling the prototype and it works very well, I reduced the noise in the image, for the production version I will change the size of the components to a larger one but basically everything is fine.

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                                      • aTg
                                        aTg last edited by

                                        I have uploaded a small script that I have done to check all bits of the RGB output separately and also the two audio outputs by the GPIO 18 and 19, this test is also valid for vga666 or other devices that use mode 6 of the DPI.

                                        It is necessary to have raspi-gpio, fbi and alsa.

                                        rgbpi-test.zip

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                                        • Substring
                                          Substring @aTg last edited by

                                          @aTg no sudo (who cares, we are root hahaha), no rasp-gpio, no fbi on recalbox 😕
                                          Anyway, most of your magic is done by overlays, so it shouldn't be a problem (unless it's a kernel version problem)

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                                          • aTg
                                            aTg @Substring last edited by aTg

                                            @Substring Sorry I forgot to mention the test it is for Raspbian.

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