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    Raspberry Pi 3B+ (Plus) - Compatible?

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    • gkralicek2
      gkralicek2 last edited by gkralicek2

      We received a bunch of new Pi3 B+ this morning at job. No luck installing Recalbox though :=(. When inserting a prepared SD card, all i could get at boot was a rainbow coloured screen with red and green leds on the board constantly lit. I'm not that surprised though as some of the chips on the board have been replaced (the network/wifi one for sure as it now supports 5Ghz Wifi, Gigabit Ethernet and PoE). The main CPU has been upgraded too as the old BCM 2837 is now replaced with a 2837B0 which embeds a different feature set (it's not only an overclocked version of the previous 2837 but should rather be considered a different processor even though it's still powered by the same quadcore unit and GPU). Just my 2 cents anyway.... :=)

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      • lhari84
        lhari84 @gkralicek2 last edited by

        @gkralicek2
        Thanks for info, even though I was hoping for better news 😉

        Pi 4:
        Sony DualShock 4 (2nd gen), 8BitDo Pro 2, 8BitDo SF30 PRO, Retroflag SUPERPi 4 Case, Recalbox 9.0

        Pi Zero 2W:
        GPi Case 2W, Recalbox 9.0

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        • gkralicek2
          gkralicek2 @lhari84 last edited by

          @lhari84 It's just a matter of time until noobs gets an update and new drivers for the network chips are made available ;=)

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          • Substring
            Substring @gkralicek2 last edited by

            @gkralicek2 it's not a noobs problem, it's a firmware + kernel problem. Recalbox img most probably can't boot for these reasons. And for noobs : we're not yet compatible as we need the new board's id

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            • MarcDK
              MarcDK last edited by MarcDK

              Hi, other distributions already have support for the new Pi3b. OSMC for example: https://osmc.tv/2018/03/osmcs-march-update-is-here-with-pi-3-b-support/

              So, when can we expect support in recalbox? How did the guys from OSMC implement the support ?

              Oh, they had preproduction units:

              "OSMC would like to thank Raspberry Pi for pre-production units which allowed us to support the device on launch day."

              https://marc.tv

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              • voljega
                voljega Banned @MarcDK last edited by

                @marcdk said in Raspberry Pi 3B+ (Plus) - Compatible?:

                So, when can we expect support in recalbox? How did the guys from OSMC implement the support ?

                with code. the team is waiting for your commits.

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                • voljega
                  voljega Banned last edited by

                  Well we wan already expect very big trouble for those of us using external hdd only powered through pui's usb : https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Raspberry-Pi-Benchmarks-Power-Draw.jpg

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                  • Substring
                    Substring @voljega last edited by

                    @voljega the pi lighnting icon strikes back ^^

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                    • SkullGrin
                      SkullGrin last edited by SkullGrin

                      Is this unit even worth bothering with? It seems like it's barely more powerful than the Pi 3. Exact same GPU and Ram type and speed. No changes. WiFi and ethernet is supposed to be better but this changes nothing on actual performance. Only the CPU speed is slightly better at 1.4GHZ but, having played around in overclocking Pi 3 to 1.37Ghz in Recalbox, i saw very little improvement. 200Mhz just isn't a substantial change.

                      Is this even a true 1.4Ghz? Or just a stock overclock of the previous CPU? Any word on heat and increased power draw? AKA: Will our good ol' buddy, the lightning bolt icon be making a comeback?

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                      • gkralicek2
                        gkralicek2 @SkullGrin last edited by

                        @skullgrin Upgrading is only worthy for someone who hasn't invested yet in a pi 3 but for those already using "standard" pi 3 with a stable overclock @1350 or 1375 it doesn't seem relevant at all.

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                        • lhari84
                          lhari84 @SkullGrin last edited by

                          @skullgrin
                          As mentioned above, maybe it would make sense for people (like me) using bluetooth game controllers. (As the internal BT of "old" Pi 3 is not the best choice and the Pi 3B+ seems to have a new controller).
                          Anyway, if the power consumption stays on the level of first tests report, I think it's not worth at all.

                          Pi 4:
                          Sony DualShock 4 (2nd gen), 8BitDo Pro 2, 8BitDo SF30 PRO, Retroflag SUPERPi 4 Case, Recalbox 9.0

                          Pi Zero 2W:
                          GPi Case 2W, Recalbox 9.0

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                          • Substring
                            Substring @lhari84 last edited by

                            @lhari84 said in Raspberry Pi 3B+ (Plus) - Compatible?:

                            Anyway, if the power consumption stays on the level of first tests report, I think it's not worth at all.

                            Have you read what @voljega posted ?

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                            • Ratte
                              Ratte @Substring last edited by

                              @substring
                              I placed my amazon-order yesterday (40,90€ not the best price, i know ...).

                              ‱Raspberry Pi model: Pi ZeroW
                              ‱Raspberry Pi model: Pi 3B @ 1350/500/500 MHz
                              ‱Raspberry Pi model: Pi 3B+ @ 1550/500/500 MHz

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                              • Dragu
                                Dragu Banned last edited by

                                @Substring
                                "Production lifetime: The Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ will remain in production until at least January 2023."
                                C'est quand-mĂȘme osĂ© dans le contexte actuel. La concurrence ne dort pas nonplus et 1400Mhz avec un GPU pas plus performant, c'est loin d'ĂȘtre un scope.

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                                • tikiandskull
                                  tikiandskull @Dragu last edited by

                                  @dragu en mĂȘme temps la fondation Raspberry Pi n'a pas les impĂ©ratifs d'une sociĂ©tĂ© commerciale... le fait que le pi soit utilisĂ© pour du retrogaming c'est pour eux de l'accessoire.

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                                  • Substring
                                    Substring @Dragu last edited by

                                    @dragu le pi est la seuke board Ă  ma connaissance qui est capable de te cracher quasi n'importe quel signal analogique grace au gpio. Alors mĂȘme si Ă  notre niveau de recalbox ce n'est pas encore trĂšs exploitĂ©, personne d'autre ne peut faire ça. Et ca vaut de l'or. Tout comme le changement de rĂ©solution Ă  la volĂ©e en framebuffer, aucune autre carte que j'ai sous la main ne peut le faire (et je commence Ă  en avoir)

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                                    • Dragu
                                      Dragu Banned last edited by

                                      @Substring
                                      D'accord, mais pour Recalbox cela reprĂ©sente du travail pour vous, de nouvelles versions qui ne vont pas forcĂ©ment apporter des avantages sensibles au niveau des jeux. Et avec tous ces intermĂ©diaires, combien de versions diffĂ©rentes de Recalbox y aura t'il en 1923 ? Et Ă  un certain moment il faudra obligatoirement prendre la dĂ©cision quelle platforme encore maintenir. 🙂

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                                      • barbudreadmon
                                        barbudreadmon @SkullGrin last edited by

                                        @skullgrin said in Raspberry Pi 3B+ (Plus) - Compatible?:

                                        having played around in overclocking Pi 3 to 1.37Ghz in Recalbox, i saw very little improvement. 200Mhz just isn't a substantial change.

                                        Is there any announcement about the fact rpi3b can't be overclocked ? Going from 1.37 to 1.4 is certainly not a big deal for most game, going from 1.37 to 1.57 is a big deal though.

                                        Btw, pi2 to pi3 was only 100Mhz improvement, 64bits was useless for emulation, and a lot of people have issues with onboard bt/wifi (which is no big deal either for emulation).

                                        Libretro developper :

                                        • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                                        • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                                        • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                                        • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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                                        • voljega
                                          voljega Banned @barbudreadmon last edited by

                                          @barbudreadmon I read someone wondering if pi3b+ weren't just stabilized pi3 with overclocking activated by default...

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                                          • barbudreadmon
                                            barbudreadmon @voljega last edited by

                                            @voljega Perhaps @gkralicek2 could confirm if this new version accept OC ?

                                            Libretro developper :

                                            • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                                            • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                                            • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                                            • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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