Recalbox RGB/Scart Output kein Bild

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@funkybunch I'm pretty sure it's an overlay problem. Does the vga666.dtb(o) exist in /boot/overlays ?

[funkybunch]

@Substring Yes, the vga666.dtbo exists

[funkybunch]

@Substring

So this is my full config.txt

#uncomment if you get no picture on HDMI for a default "safe" mode
#hdmi_safe=1

#disable_overscan=1

#uncomment to force a specific HDMI mode (this will force VGA)
#hdmi_group=1
#hdmi_mode=1

#comment to get jack audio
#hdmi_drive=2

#config_hdmi_boost=0

#force hdmi while the tv can take time before sending the signal on the hdmi output
#hdmi_force_hotplug=1

#uncomment for composite PAL
#sdtv_mode=2

#uncomment for lirc-rpi
#dtoverlay=lirc-rpi

#if you plug your tv at the same time as your rpi and that the rpi switches from the hdmi or give a low resolution because tv had no enough time to initialize it
boot_delay=3

#uncomment if you don't want the rainbow at startup
disable_splash=1

#Overclock
gpu_mem_256=128
gpu_mem_512=256
gpu_mem_1024=512

avoid_safe_mode=1

kernel=zImage

disable_audio_dither=1
dtparam=audio=on
dtoverlay=vga666
enable_dpi_lcd=1
display_default_lcd=1
dpi_group=2
dpi_mode=87
hdmi_timings=320 1 16 30 34 240 1 2 3 22 0 0 0 60 0 6400000 1 #240p

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@funkybunch I've already been told about the dpi24 overlay not working with recalboxfs ... I guess this could just be because of our "old" kernel, but can't tell for sure

But remove the #240p from your hdmi_timings line. Also just try usual CEA/DMT mode that should fit your monitor (but write dpi_mode and dpi_group instead of hdmi_mode and hdmi_group)

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@ian57 said in Recalbox RGB/Scart Output kein Bild:

@substring : Smallcab will perhaps lend me a Pi2scart module to make the support for recalbox. When arrived I will make some tests and write a mini howto for this module.

I look forward to hearing from you soon

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@funkybunch have you read my answer ?

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@Substring said in Recalbox RGB/Scart Output kein Bild:

@funkybunch have you read my answer ?

Yes i'm pretty shure i tried this way yesterday without success but i'll try it later again.

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@Substring now i made the update to 4.1 unstable before i change the settings for using with a CRT. Now it Works! i have to set the overscan correctly, but that's not a big deal. When i finished, i can post the final config.txt

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@funkybunch i'm not sure overscan will have the desired effect (something i must try), but porchs should do it

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@Substring i thinks that is the best solution. Do you know a source which explains all parameter of hdmi_timings?

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@funkybunch there is definitely none. It's all try'n'die. You'll just find the meaning of eachvalue, but their influence is very hard to explain.

What I can tell you is that playing on porchs moves the picture.

• if you want to move the screen to the left, increase the horizontal porch by one and decrease the back porch by one
• you can of course change this to move to the right
• playing on vertical porch moves the picture up and down.

Having a perfect full screen picture is almost impossible. Anyway that's siomething we're working on, but the result should come after 4.1 stable

[funkybunch]

@Substring it's annoying to set up (a setup tool with a test image, wich change the setting step by step would be nice. i've seen something on the pi2jamma distribution) but ok.
the picture is not really perfect

the more i try to optimize my settings the more i find projects with recalbox on crt's. so it would be really nice if recalbox get an easy setup for crt's in future (with version 4.2 or 4.3 eventually)

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@funkybunch that's something we've been working really hard for months

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@Substring i'm looking forward to a new beta.
if i were not a noob, i would gladly help.

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@funkybunch As I said, not ni 4.1, but later. I have to make sure the process can work easily on almost any CRT, and be as much as possible faithful to the original display/framerate. I can't just take someone's work (@ironic who is the man who made the big leap forward in CRT configuration) and add it. This topic is complex, and I have to make sure i understand everything so that i can give support once it's ready

There are 2 main topics regarding CRT (both are mainly in french :/), on that is more than 600 posts, and an other one regarding advancemame in 4.1. The advancemame configuration can be done rather easily, but it's arcade only.

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@Substring That's the point. It have to work with every system and every config

When my system works correctly i only copy arcade roms on the recalbox instead of tekken 3 because the mame version doesn't work on the pi. So i have to use the PSX Version.

I think i have to learn french because "a l'ecole je ne l'ai pas beaucoup appris" and try to understand.

Thanks for the support with my hdmi_timings problem.

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@funkybunch try first to understand the hdmi_timings line in your config.txt. What i'm doing on my own for now is simply testing neogeo as it almost has a single resolution. So it's very easy to test. But still, that's much (and very interesting) work

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@Substring ok. i think i approximately understand the logic behind it. now i got a perfect output. a centered picture and the graphic quality is absolutely beautiful pixel by pixel.

One problem is, that Marvel vs Capcom for example is nearly a widescreen game. With 320x240 i can't get the full screen because the game got a resolution of 384x224pixels.

I've found a solution for that here but where i have to put the runcommand-onstart
and runcommand-onend scripts when i switch to retroarch? simply in the script folder?

And last but not least my config.txt if anybody needs. the timings are perfect for a Sony Trinitron KV-21X5D (of course you have to make the correct settings in retroarch. so no scaling, turn off pixel perfect, custom aspect ratio, setting offset etc.)

#uncomment if you get no picture on HDMI for a default "safe" mode
#hdmi_safe=1

disable_overscan=1
#overscan_left=5
#overscan_right=5
#overscan_top=5
#overscan_bottom=5

#uncomment to force a specific HDMI mode (this will force VGA)
#hdmi_group=1
#hdmi_mode=1

#comment to get jack audio
#hdmi_drive=2

#config_hdmi_boost=0

#force hdmi while the tv can take time before sending the signal on the hdmi output
#hdmi_force_hotplug=1

#uncomment for composite PAL
#sdtv_mode=2

#uncomment for lirc-rpi
#dtoverlay=lirc-rpi

#if you plug your tv at the same time as your rpi and that the rpi switches from the hdmi or give a low resolution because tv had no enough time to initialize it
boot_delay=3

#uncomment if you don't want the rainbow at startup
disable_splash=1

#Overclock
gpu_mem_256=128
gpu_mem_512=256
gpu_mem_1024=512

avoid_safe_mode=1

kernel=zImage

#NOOBS Auto-generated Settings:
#hdmi_force_hotplug=1
dtparam=audio=on
overscan_scale=1

disable_audio_dither=1
dtoverlay=vga666
enable_dpi_lcd=1
display_default_lcd=1
dpi_group=2
dpi_mode=87
hdmi_timings=320 1 10 30 47 240 1 4 3 15 0 0 0 60 0 6400000 1

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such a configuration will lead to all games more or less stretched to 240p and cause some horieontal stretching, resulting in some columns that can be 2 pixels wide, sometimes 1 pixel wide ... this should be quite visible on horizontal scrolling ...

Regarding Marvel vs Capcom, you'd need to understand how its MAME driver (or FBA driver) is made. I guess it's a CPS2 game ? so you'd need to write a hdmi_timing on your own, or see what's been done so far. This is what we're working on. I have an untested modeline for CPS3 that could suit your needs, or you can check http://sommerp.net/doku.php?id=raspberry_pi_arcade

Then you can just add for testing in your recalbox.conf fba_libretro.videomode=hdmi_timings 384 1 0 11 28 224 1 30 0 30 0 0 0 60 0 6400000 1 (fba_libretro being the system name) and then play around with porch to reach the result you'd want. So far recalbox has no mecanism yet to set a per system+game custom resolution, just a per system one

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@Substring oh yeah! That's so nice. Thank you very much! I've made global timings for a 1600x240 resolution and switch back to the regular resulution for displaying emulationstation. So I have to made separate retroarch configs for every core, but it works real nice. is not pixel perfect but without seeing any artifacts. I'm very, very happy and as a photographer I normally never really satisfied with image quality.

For every console game it's already perfect. The only thing is that some arcade titles got different resolutions and i have only core specific options. As you said recalbox have only settings per system and not per system+game. So i only have to make retroarch custom settings for each rom which has no standard resolution.