Current state AdvanceMame with Recalbox 6.1

[DreyMIX]

Hello,
this below is a table made by me with the games that I currently have installed on my Recalbox 6.1 and that I use with the AdvanceMame emulator to take advantage of games that use lasergun, trackball, spinner and vector graphics.
As you can see in the second column "Recalbox v18.07.13", most of the roms worked correctly and without any particular problems. I noticed the first slowdowns from the 6.0 version of Recalbox and continue to be there also in the Recalbox 6.1 (column 3).

Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks!

AdvanceMame Emulator status

ROMS	RecalBox v18.07.13	RecalBox v6.0 & v6.1
1000 Miglia: Great 1000 Miles Rally	Perfect	Perfect
Arkanoid	Perfect	Perfect
Arkanoid - Revenge Of Doh	Perfect	Perfect
Arkanoid Returns	Perfect	Slow
Asteroids	Perfect	Perfect
Bad Lands	Perfect	Perfect
Bang!	Perfect	Perfect
Battle Zone	Perfect	Perfect
Born To Fight	Perfect	Perfect
Block Block	Perfect	Perfect
Cabal	Perfect	Perfect
Caliber 50	Perfect	Perfect
Cameltry	Perfect	Perfect
Centipede	Perfect	Perfect
Clay Pigeon	Perfect	Perfect
Championship Sprint	Perfect	Slow
Crystal Castles	Perfect	Perfect
Crater Raider	Perfect	Perfect
Dragon Gun	Perfect	Good in Menu - Slow in Game
Discs Of Tron	Perfect	Perfect
Danny Sullivan's Indy Heat	Perfect	Slow
Gigas	Perfect	Perfect
Goindol	Perfect	Perfect
Gunbuster	Perfect	Slow
Gravitar	Perfect	Good
Irritating Maze, The	Perfect	Perfect
Lethal Enforcers	Perfect	Good
Lemmings	Perfect	Perfect
Lethal Justice	Good	Good
Lucky & Wild	Perfect	Slow
Major Havoc	Perfect	Good
Lunar Lander	Perfect	Perfect
Line Of Fire / Bakudan Yarou	Perfect	Slow
Marble Madness	Perfect	Perfect
Missile Command	Perfect	Perfect
N.y. Captor	Perfect	Good
Night Stocker	Perfect	Perfect
Off The Wall	Perfect	Perfect
Operation Wolf	Perfect	Perfect
Operation Wolf 3	Good	Good
Out Run	Perfect	Slow
Pole Position	Perfect	Perfect
Puzz Loop	Perfect	Slow
Outfoxies, The	Good	Slow
One Shot One Kill	Perfect	Perfect
Point Blank	Perfect	Slow
Police Trainer	Perfect	Perfect
Prebillian	Don't test	Good
Racing Hero	Don't test	Slow
Revolution X	Good	Slow
Road Blasters	Perfect	Good
Rough Racer	Don't test	Slow
Sharpshooter	Perfect	Perfect
Space Gun	Perfect	Slow
Star Trek	Don't test	Good
Star Wars	Good	Slow
Super Sprint	Perfect	Slow
Tac/scan	Perfect	Good
Tempest	Perfect	Slow
Terminator 2 - Judgment Day	Don't test	Good
Tournament Arkanoid	Perfect	Perfect
Thunder Ceptor	Don't test	Slow
Syvalion	Perfect	Perfect
Under Fire	Don't test	Slow
Wec Le Mans 24	Perfect	Perfect
Zombie Raid	Perfect	Perfect

[GKM]

Hello,
I recently installed the Recalbox 6.1, starting from scratch. I own an Ultimarc SpinTrak and tried to run the "Out Run" roms on advmame and I can confirm that it runs very slow and with audio problems too. I have not tried the other roms because for the moment I am not interested, but when I have a moment, I can test some of the others and see if I find the same problems you have.

Sorry for English, but I'm Italian.

[DreyMIX]

@gkm Hello,
so you too, the Outrun roms gives you problems of slowing down. It is already something and I feel relieved (at least it's not just my problem).
It would be great if I could try another one of the ROMS listed above.

But I also wanted to do another test. Install the Recalbox 6.1 on an 8 GB microSD card (I currently use a 64 GB microSD card), and try out the Outrun roms for example. Then install Recalbox 18.07.13 (hoping to find the image of the OS somewhere) on another microSD and try to start Outrun. Always using the AdvanceMame emulator. And let's see a little ...

[DreyMIX]

Then I installed Recalbox 6.1 on a new micro SD (unfortunately I only have a 32 GB memory).
First I performed a complete formatting using the software:
https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter/index.html

Then as recommended by some guide, I started guiformat.exe completely deleted any remaining partitions:
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm

So I uploaded the image on the microSD, started the system, connected to the Wifi, copied the ROMS for Advancemame and this is the result. Still slowdowns and audio problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AQH0j2zex0

[jorgemagana]

Most of your games in this list run without problem with mame2003 plus. Some of them needs some special configuration (I use a keyboard sometimes to enter some config screens), maybe this could help you:

https://wiki.mamedev.org/index.php/FAQ:Games

[glook]

vector games are definitively better on AdvanceMame (Asteroids, BattleZone...)

[DreyMIX]

@jorgemagana I don't use mame2003 because as specified, for most of these ROMS I use 2 spinner. with mame2003 I never managed to make it work, while with advancemame it is very simple.

@glook yes also for this use advancemame.

Maybe they inadvertently did something that slowed Advancemame in some way. Before I used these ROMS without any problems.

[GKM]

I also use Advancemame because I had problems configuring my SpinTrack on the mame2003. We hope they can solve the problems of slowing down. Thanks Dreymix for the test!
I unfortunately don't have any other microSD to do more tests. But as soon as I can I try with other ROMS.

[DreyMIX]

Good evening,
I was able to find and install again the old version of Recalbox v18.07.13, on the same 32 GB microSD where I had previously installed the Recalbox v6.1. I again formatted and reset the partition with the programs mentioned above.
I tried some games, from the table above, that with the Recalbox v6.1 gave the aforementioned slowdown problems. Instead with the v18.07.13 it has behaved very well.

The games have been started, as always, using the AdvanceMame emulator:

• Outrun
• Arkanoid Returns
• Championship Sprint
• Danny Sullivan's Indy Heat
• Dragon Gun

Video Youtube: Recalbox v18.07.13 Advancemame perfect!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW_sXq-uZUo

[GKM]

I watched the video and actually something happened. Outrun as I see it behaved very well on the old version.
Is there a way to bring the same version of advmame back to the 6.1 recalbox?

[paradadf]

Advancemame hasn’t been updated... that makes it difficult to track down what could be causing the slowdown. I’d suggest to try mame2003plus, as it has gotten many improvements in the regards that has been mentioned here.

[GKM]

@paradadf Hello,
I tried several times to configure my SpinTrak with mame2003plus, but I never succeeded. The fact is that Advancemame has the advantage of assigning the mouse ID, even if you attack 2 of them at the same time and all settings are made easily via configuration files. While on mame2003plus I never managed to configure two mice as separate devices. When I access the menu (TAB) of the mame and configure one, then the other takes the same actions. Even by assigning IDs to it through Retroarch I haven't solved.

It's not that I want to rush you, God forbid, but I hope that sooner or later you will take a look at what happened with the latest versions. It would really be a shame to lose some features of the Advancemame.

Thx

[paradadf]

@gkm not entirely sure this is exactly what you need, but in the following topic they talk a lot about analog input devices.

https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-plus-libretro/issues/399#issuecomment-457024703

It might be just a configuration thing... contacting the people there might give you insights as I really belive I've read spinners do work with mame2003plus.

See:
https://docs.libretro.com/library/mame2003_plus/#mouse-and-trackball-support

https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/17766/mame2003-plus-hundreds-of-new-games-improved-input-features-new-bugs-now-with-runahead-support/854

[DreyMIX]

@paradadf Thanks,
as soon as I have some time, I'll see if I can set up at least one mame2003plus game using two spinners (hoping to succeed).

However, the intent of my post was also to make people understand what happened on the latest version of Recalbox. I don't know if you can tell the developers. As I repeat, there is no hurry, as long as it is made present.

Thanks!

[paradadf]

@dreymix the team is well aware of this post, don’t worry.

[DreyMIX]

@paradadf Sorry for the delay. Thanks a lot