Unsolved Amiga, Stand der Dinge?

[hubi]

Stop / Start:

Using username "root".
root@192.168.0.10's password:

/etc/init.d/S31emulationstation stop

/etc/init.d/S31emulationstation start

lvl0: System "favorites" is missing name, path, extension, or command!

lo IP Address 127.0.0.1
eth0 IP Address 192.168.0.10
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 40 100 40 0 0 96 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 107
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 47 100 47 0 0 168 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 200

Mehr kommt nicht...

[Wulfman]

Leider fehlt ja trotz Ankündigung in 4.1 der Amiga. Ich hab dann das Update auf 4.1 gemacht und musste nur das Menu "rekonstruieren" (4.1 scheint aber auf Amiga vorbereitet zu sein? Ich hab jetzt ein Menu-Symbol bei Amiga 600/1200 - vorher stand da nur "amiga600" "amiga1200"). Läuft problemlos.

Ich hatte gestern tatsächlich ein Spiel welches einen Trainer nutzt der die Tasten F1-F12 (!!) belegt. Problem: bei dem Emulator greift die Hotkey-Belegung von ES nicht. KEINE. Ich hab daher in der Amiga-Konfig die Keys für Menu und Quit auf F11/F12 gelegt (die Buttons hab ich abgewählt -> Button 1-4 sind immer in Reichweite ... ungünstig...). Tja jetzt kollidiert F11/F12 mit dem Trainer. Folglich: ich komme nicht mehr aus dem Spiel raus Hat jemand eine Idee wie ich das elegant lösen könnte? Direkt per Konfig die Menu/Quit-Taste (in UAE hat man nur F11/F12/-- zur Auswahl) auf eine Taste legen die eine PC-Tastatur hat, aber die der Amiga nicht hatte? Oder Tastenkombi (F1+F12= Quit, F1+F11 = Menu?!)

[hubi]

Ich mache jetzt von der ersten Karte mit 4.0.2 und funktionierendem Amiga ein Update auf 4.1 stable (so wie @Wulfman)

Bin mal gespannt ob´s klappt

[hubi]

@Wulfman
Habe das Update auf 4.1 gemacht. Im Menü werden die Amigas nich angezeigt.
Wie hast du das Menü "rekonstruiert"?

[Wulfman]

@hubi
Viel Erfolg

Mit "Menu rekonstruieren" meinte ich diesen Punkt in der Anleitung

integration with EmulationStation : modify the es_systems.cfg file in /recalbox/share_init/.emulationstation (needs to change partition / to read and write) and add the following system :

<system>
<fullname>amiga600</fullname>
....

Ich hab bei Fullname übrigens Amiga 600 bzw. Amiga 1200 hingeschrieben. Der Name an der Stelle ist ja nur Optik (dadrunter "name" ist wichtiger und sollte nicht geändert werden!). Statt Optik in Schrift wurde ich mit Optik in Grafik belohnt Ob DAS zusammenhängt weiß ich aber nicht.

[voljega]

@wulfman you have to enter the menu to quit, just click on q

You should also be able to click on a touch from your controller, which type are you using ?

[Wulfman]

ES-Hotkey = don't need (=> and don't work). I use: Keyboard F11 (set to "menu" [uae]), F12 (set to "quit -> go es"). Yes - in Emulation-Menu: Q = Quit, Mouse-Click@Quit = Quit.
=> That is not the problem in 99,9% of my Games ;). Standard-Doing [ES-Hotkey would be nice ...]

Yesterday i've played a game with a very big Trainer. F1-F10. I've pressed (in the game) F11 => SOUND [something like "piep" or "krzzzz"] and then Screen changed to black. Wait. Wait. Wait. Black. I've pressed F11 again: I'm back in the game - not the Menu. I've pressed F12 - nothing happend.

F11 and F12 works in the Trainer-Info-Screen before the game. I've leaved this Info-Screen, start the game: F11/F12 doesn't work anymore. No ES-Hotkey, No F11, F12 ... only reboot raspi works

At the first i thought F11/F12 are used by Trainer -> but Amiga has only 10 Function-Keys (i've forget this in my last post - sorry) ... But SOUND and Screen black by pressing F11.

I can't find the game again ... mhhh good No Game, no Problem

[hubi]

@voljega
@Wulfman

Der Wechsel von 4.0.2 mit Amiga auf 4.1 durch automatisches Update und anschließender Anpassung der es_systems.cfg hat funktioniert!

Warum es anders nicht ging, weiß ich leider nicht. Vielleicht probier ichs nochmal mit der anderen Karte aus und setzt das System mit 4.1 komplett neu auf.

Ich habe auch noch eine Frage wegen des Spiel-beendens.
Auf meinen Gamepad (iBuffalo) kann ich mit Y ein Spiel
beenden bzw. fliege direkt raus.
Die Taste liegt ungünstig. Kann ich die auf eine anderen Taste (z.B. Select) umlegen?

[Wulfman]

Oh ... a bug?

Games (2+ Disks) don't work after scraping:

"Fresh"-Amiga600 (Amiga1200)-Directory.
Content ONLY *.adf
Start Recalbox
Go to PC: open Universal_XML_Scraper
Scrape.

UXML creates a gamelist.xml

<game id="33236" source="ScreenScraper">
	<path>./Mortal Kombat II (Disk 1 of 4).adf</path>
	<name>Mortal Kombat II</name>
	<desc>Something Blbablablablablabala....</desc>
	<image>./downloaded_images/Mortal Kombat II (Disk 1 of 4)-image.png</image>
	<image/>
	<rating>0.75</rating>
	<releasedate>19941118T000000</releasedate>
	<developer>Midway</developer>
	<publisher>Acclaim Entertainment</publisher>
	<genre>Kampf</genre>
	<players>1-2</players>
	<region/>
</game>

And it's create a sub-dir: downloaded_images/

You see: Path -> OK .. it's Disk 1 and ADF!

Now starting this Game: "Please insert Disk" ?! -> UAE-Menu:

Scrape with ingame-Scraping don't work - its find only Console-/Arcade-Games. Not the Amiga-Versions. Pure Amiga-Game: don't find. I think it happens with the Amiga-Support @ 4.1 -> No Amiga -> No "It's Amiga-Game"-Info zu scraping-Site.

[Wulfman]

@hubi
umbelegen geht - Gamepad-Buttons weiß ich aber nicht. Ich bin hierfür auf die Tastatur geschwenkt. Bei Gamepad kam ich immer auf die falschen Buttons

Öffne dafür in share\emulateurs die Datei adflauncher.sh (wenn du nicht weißt was du da machst: sichere die Datei vorher!!)

Du findest da den Abschnitt:
"#Controllers configuration" dort am ENDE über "#Show status leds (Status Line)"
trägst du folgendes ein:
echo "key_for_menu=292" >> raw.uae
echo "key_for_quit=293" >> raw.uae
F11 => Menu
F12 => Quit
Ich hab noch nicht raus wie ich da z.b. "Select" "Start" drauf lege. Die Codes kenn ich nicht. Vielleicht hat
@voljega eine Idee? Würde das ganze auch lieber auf Gamepad legen - am besten sogar Hotkey-Mässig "Select + Start" => Quit. "Select + PS" = Menu. Beispielsweise

[voljega]

@wulfman then don't press F11 what can I say ?? and you didn't even answer my question

[voljega]

@wulfman said in Amiga, Stand der Dinge?:

Öffne dafür in share\emulateurs die Datei adflauncher.sh (wenn du nicht weißt was du da machst: sichere die Datei vorher!!)
Du findest da den Abschnitt:
"#Controllers configuration" dort am ENDE über "#Show status leds (Status Line)"
trägst du folgendes ein:
echo "key_for_menu=292" >> raw.uae
echo "key_for_quit=293" >> raw.uae
F11 => Menu
F12 => Quit

you use a very old version because the latest adflauncher on my github has been for the last 7 month :
https://github.com/Voljega/amiga4recalbox/blob/master/emulateurs/adflauncher.sh

echo "button_for_menu=2" >> raw.uae
echo "button_for_quit=3" >> raw.uae

so this uses button instead of key.... but you won't be able to use two buttons at the same time for quitting or entering the menu.

also my 1600 amiga1200 games and 400 or so amiga600 games are all fully scraped so there's absolutely no problem with that if done right

a lot of amiga games also wants to have disk 2, 3 or 4 entered into first disk reader and don't use the user one, wo when you get the message just change the first disk in gui
you can also use the leds on the bottom right to see which readers are active or not, this should tell you if the change of your disk has any effect or not

@hubi
to modify the buttons used modify the file mentioned by @Wulfman and for whdl games, both uae there :
https://github.com/Voljega/amiga4recalbox/tree/master/emulateurs

and for both of you @hubi @Wulfman I'm sorry this works for you now so I won't spend any more time there except for critical questions because official integration is around the corner

[hubi]

@voljega
@Wulfman

Danke!

[Wulfman]

you use a very old version because the latest adflauncher on my github has been for the last 7 month :
https://github.com/Voljega/amiga4recalbox/blob/master/emulateurs/adflauncher.sh

Very Old? I've downloaded it last week. ... 292, 293 are keys - F11/F12 - if i change this manually in UAE and saves this - its write to ram/ (only exists as long UAE runs) ... from this file in ram/ i have the 292, 293 and write it into adflauncher.sh. I think it should be possible to write other keys from a PC-Keyboard to this position. But i don't have an overview for the Key-mapping

echo "button_for_menu=2" >> raw.uae
echo "button_for_quit=3" >> raw.uae

so this uses button instead of key.... but you won't be able to use two buttons at the same time for quitting or entering the menu.

Single-Buttons aren't good on a gamepad => Keys on Keyboard are better ... my opinion ... that's the reason for F11/F12 fix ...

I've used a Logitech K400+ as Keyboard/Mouse and PS3-Gamepad (org)

also my 1600 amiga1200 games and 400 or so amiga600 games are all fully scraped so there's absolutely no problem with that if done right

a lot of amiga games also wants to have disk 2, 3 or 4 entered into first disk reader and don't use the user one, wo when you get the message just change the first disk in gui

correct ... some games only works with df0 (changed manually - no problem) ... But on the screenshot - you can see - df0-df3 => There are set Images instead adf On EVERY Game (Multidisk?!). The only one which is not scraped runs correctly with adf in df0-df1-df2

you can also use the leds on the bottom right to see which readers are active or not, this should tell you if the change of your disk has any effect or not

I start a Game from ES -> First see: Kickstart-Screen ... No Disk Inserted. Look at the menu => only "images" set in df0-df3. Why? Whats wrong? With 4.02 = no probleme. With update to 4.1 cames the problem. I've change after update only the Part "modify the es_systems.cfg file in /recalbox/share_init/.emulationstation " from your guide.

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If the Amiga is officially supported: Do I have to undo the modifications from your manual?

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Noch mal auf Deutsch - vielleicht drücke ich mich in Englisch falsch aus

Ich habe die adflauncher.sh von letzter Woche. Dort hab ich die beiden Zeilen eingefügt um F11 und F12 FEST zu setzen (default ist das ja nicht). 292/293 hab ich von UAE. Ich hab F11/F12 für Menu/Quit gesetzt und gespeichert. Das ganze wird in ram/ gespeichert. Die Konfig dort also angeschaut und 292/293 gesehen und in die adflauncher übernommen. Ich weiß nicht wie du darauf kommst das meine adflauncher.sh alt sei ... das sind Anpassungen von mir. Mit Buttons @ Gamepad kam ich nicht zurecht - im Eifer des Gefechts oft drauf gekommen -> schwupp im ES gelandet

Zu dem Problem mit den ADFs.
Ich starte ein Spiel. Laut gamelist.xml ist der Path passend zu dem ADF. Ich starte -> Es kommt der Kickstart-Screen der mir sagen möchte das keine Diskette eingelegt ist. Ich öffne das UAE-Menu und sehe: es sind in allen 4 Slots die Scraped-Images (.png) eingelegt. Ich hab das scraping ganz frisch gemacht: ALLES in den Verzeichnissen gelöscht außer den ADFs. Reboot. Scraped mit UXML. Scraped mit ES klappt nicht => Amiga kennt der nicht. Ich bekomme ständig nur SNES, Gamedrive-Versionen vorgeschlagen (Bilder...) mit UXML klappt das hingegen. Bei anderen Platformen klappt das. Irgendwas scheint hier nicht sauber zu sein. Mit 4.02 vor paar Tagen hat das ganze noch sauber geklappt. Mit 4.1 (update) nicht mehr. Ich hab nur oben genannte Stelle nach Update neu gemacht.

[voljega]

@wulfman ok i idn't see the download_images problem.... no wonder how you managed to do that lol ! recheck everything because it seems totally impossible between Emulation Station is doing and how I wrote my script

most likely you have an error either in your scrape file creating a confusion between <path> and <image> or in the modification of your es_systems.cfg where the command passes the image name instead of the game file

[Wulfman]

@voljega said in Amiga, Stand der Dinge?:

most likely you have an error either in your scrape file creating a confusion between <path> and <image> or in the modification of your es_systems.cfg where the command passes the image name instead of the game file

i've used
https://github.com/Voljega/amiga4recalbox this es_system.cfg Part. The Only modfing which i used: <fullname>amiga600</fullname> <-> <fullname>Amiga 600</fullname>

My scrapefile (gamelist.xml) you can see in you can see above.
<image> = you see the path to downloaded_images, <path> the Path to ADF

<path>./Mortal Kombat II (Disk 1 of 4).adf</path>
<name>Mortal Kombat II</name>
<desc>Something Blbablablablablabala....</desc>
<image>./downloaded_images/Mortal Kombat II (Disk 1 of 4)-image.png</image>

AHH! ... Idea! Filename wrong? No spaces?
Better:
Mortal_Kombat_II_Disk_1.adf
Mortal_Kombat_II_Disk_2.adf
... i've check this tomorrow ...
The first naming (after update to 4.1) was different. I already changed this because I thought that adflauncher might get confused. There were a mix of filenames. Some works .... mhhh ... ok => I need the correct Filename-Format?? ;).

[Wulfman]

Not tomorrow - evening alone ... time to test something

#1: Change ADF-Filename (directory) and path in gamelist.xml. PNG is the "old" one (spaces)
Filename of ADF: Mortal_Kombat_II_(Disk_1_of_4).adf
Filename of PNG: Mortal Kombat II (Disk 1 of 4).png
<- recognized / Work ... But ... Disk 2,3,4 not ... of course ... adflauncher.sh want "Disk x" not "Disk_x".

#2: 1 + Underline ONLY between Disk and x
Mortal_Kombat_II_(Disk 1_of_4).adf
Mortal_Kombat_II_(Disk 2_of_4).adf
...
Filename of PNG: Mortal Kombat II (Disk 1 of 4).png [spaces]
Works

#3: 1+2 + rename Filename-IMAGE (downloaded_images and gamelist)
Mortal_Kombat_II_(Disk 1_of_4).adf
Mortal_Kombat_II_(Disk 1_of_4).png
=> don't work ONLY images...png in df0-df3

Manually Change the PATH/File.adf is not an solution

adflauncher has a problem with downloaded_images/ ...
Searches adflauncher for the first occurrence (?) of first characters (M in Mortal) to disk 1 in gamelist.xml ?!

Test:
Delete IMAGE-Entrys in gamelist. No more change on filename (png, adf; see #3)
=> don't work.
=> adflauncher get the IMAGE-Filenames not from gamelist.xml. It looks in downloaded_images ... but why?

No idea anymore

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Games with only ONE Disk works. PNG and ADF with "same" Name (png in downloaded_images of course). Only Multidisk-Games have this Problem.

[voljega]

@wulfman oooooh I might have an idea and this indeed could be a bug

but first are you sure you have the latest version ?

to see if my idea is correct it should work if you put your game in a subfolder (which is what i'm using) don't forget to modify your scrape accordingly but the images should stay in ./download_images off course

then it should work in every case

[Wulfman]

@voljega said in Amiga, Stand der Dinge?:

@wulfman oooooh I might have an idea and this indeed could be a bug

but first are you sure you have the latest version ?

to see if my idea is correct it should work if you put your game in a subfolder (which is what i'm using) don't forget to modify your scrape accordingly but the images should stay in ./download_images off course

then it should work in every case

Subfolder work!
"Same" Name for PNG/ADF
PNG in ./downloaded_images/
ADF in ./California Games/California Games Disk 1.adf

My Version are 8 days old - i think it is the latest

[voljega]

@wulfman ok good

then if you modified line 88 in adflauncher.sh :

find "$romPath" -name "$prefix*" | sort | while read i

to :

find "$romPath" -maxdepth 0 -name "$prefix*" | sort | while read i

it should correct the bug. good catch !