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    • barbudreadmon
      barbudreadmon last edited by

      I checked pgm/cave, those are m68k/z80 games (same as neogeo,cps1,cps2,megadrive, ... but with higher frequency), i don't understand why they wouldn't run at full speed on your raspberry pi. Are you talking about a raspberry pi 2 ? A raspberry pi 3 ? Both ???

      Libretro developper :

      • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
      • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
      • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
      • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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      • acris
        acris last edited by acris

        In my case, raspberry 3. They are slow and audio bug like psykio game before your option.
        @rockaddicted do you have test theses games ?

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          @acris have you deactivated rewind ? 😄

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          • barbudreadmon
            barbudreadmon last edited by

            I don't understand, all those games run at constant 60fps for me, and i'm 99% sure they did on rpi2 too.

            What's your /boot/config.txt settings ? Do you run those games in 'performance' cpufreq mode ? What's in your retroarch.cfg ? Do you run some cpu intensive shader ?

            Libretro developper :

            • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
            • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
            • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
            • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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            • voljega
              voljega Banned last edited by voljega

              I confirm pgm and cave games are clearly not running at full speed on overclocked pi2 nor non-overclocked pi3.

              It's a bit better at least for pgm on pi3 but still not full speed

              Image is fine but sound cracky/lagging

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              • barbudreadmon
                barbudreadmon @voljega last edited by

                @voljega said in FBA new core option:

                I confirm pgm and cave games are clearly not running at full speed on overclocked pi2 nor non-overclocked pi3.

                It's a bit better at least for pgm on pi3 but still not full speed

                Image is fine but sound cracky/lagging

                Not for me xD
                I did a pull request to recalbox's fbalpha makefile, i hope it will help.

                Libretro developper :

                • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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                • barbudreadmon
                  barbudreadmon last edited by

                  I ran htop while running a few of those games, one of the core topped at 90% of load while the other 3 were idle (i don't think i can do something about this), i suppose it could cause speed issues if your system is at stock frequency or if you have something running in background. Do you know what was the last version of fba where you saw pgm/cave games running at full speed on your raspberry ?

                  Libretro developper :

                  • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                  • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                  • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                  • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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                    Substring last edited by Substring

                    @voljega fba was "better" on recalbox 3.3.0-b17 ? or 3.2.11 ?

                    3.3.0-b17 uses commit 39a6baafc5b80fda617fe0d72aa8747fdea5f9e2
                    3.2.11 uses commit c6b13e90127ec9c6c21cfd19d95da3b6cf296cd6

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                    • barbudreadmon
                      barbudreadmon last edited by

                      Actually, none of those games run on Cave hardware, too bad that's the one i spent an hour checking xD. I'll check Pgm tomorrow.

                      Libretro developper :

                      • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                      • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                      • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                      • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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                      • voljega
                        voljega Banned @Substring last edited by

                        @subs I don't think it was better before, those games never worked at full speed for me.
                        I'm there since Recalbox 3.2 I think

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                        • barbudreadmon
                          barbudreadmon @voljega last edited by

                          @voljega said in FBA new core option:

                          @subs I don't think it was better before, those games never worked at full speed for me.
                          I'm there since Recalbox 3.2 I think

                          By the way, what's your raspberry pi 3 clock settings exactly ? i'm backporting some old fba code and i need to test if some of it would solve your speed issues.

                          For reference, pgm games have no issue at all for me with those settings :

                          dtparam=audio=on
                          dtoverlay=sdhost,overclock_50=84
                          arm_freq=1350
                          gpu_freq=550
                          over_voltage=5
                          sdram_freq=550
                          sdram_schmoo=0x02000020
                          over_voltage_sdram_p=6
                          over_voltage_sdram_i=4
                          over_voltage_sdram_c=4
                          gpu_mem=384

                          Libretro developper :

                          • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                          • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                          • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                          • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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                          • voljega
                            voljega Banned @barbudreadmon last edited by

                            @barbudreadmon I have not modified at all the clock settings on my pi3

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                            • barbudreadmon
                              barbudreadmon @voljega last edited by

                              @voljega ok, i'll use stock settings to test my speedhacks then.

                              Libretro developper :

                              • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                              • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                              • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                              • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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                                Substring @voljega last edited by

                                @voljega i remember people saying PGM and psyko games running slow on a pi2, but they looked (almost) fine on my pi3

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                                • barbudreadmon
                                  barbudreadmon @Substring last edited by

                                  @subs As i said, they run totally fine on mine, never saw them under 59.9 fps. But perhaps my overclock settings are agressive, and my system is better optimized, so i'll try to lower the requirements with a few speedhacks.

                                  Libretro developper :

                                  • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                                  • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                                  • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                                  • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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                                  • voljega
                                    voljega Banned last edited by voljega

                                    OK I must have mixed something a little because my test results are better than what I remember on PI3 :

                                    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F5tBguhRxpj1AQcnDWF6AVSx4av_Gm3cDQedQB7IECk/edit#gid=32876421

                                    Thoase are tests with non overclocked Pi3 and overclocked Pi2 (this one overclocked only through the ES menu)

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                                    • barbudreadmon
                                      barbudreadmon last edited by

                                      By the way, with latest commit, every control issue should be solved.

                                      Libretro developper :

                                      • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                                      • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                                      • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                                      • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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                                      • gkralicek2
                                        gkralicek2 last edited by

                                        FYI, PGM games on my OC Pi3@1400 run full speed (59.9-60fps) exception made for the 2 most recent titles released in 2005 : "Spectral Vs Générations" and "The killing blade Plus" which perform only around 54-57fps max during gameplay.
                                        The same games executed on my OC Pi2@1100 display around 50-54fps max with slightly choppy sound everytime the framerate drops (42-46 fps only for Spectral vs Generation & The killing blade plus with almost constant choppy sound during gameplay)

                                        All those framerate tests have been performed using earlier versions of FBA_libretro core (v0.2.97.30 and v0.2.97.34) which appear to be less resource-consuming. The same tests run on versions 0.2.97.37 or 0.2.97.38 of the FBA core result in a drop of approximately 7% in performances compared to earlier releases, thus degrading a bit more the experience :=(

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                                        • barbudreadmon
                                          barbudreadmon @gkralicek2 last edited by

                                          @gkralicek2 what about v0.2.97.36 ? "The killing blade Plus" performs around 57-60fps for me with v0.2.97.36, and my OC is lower. What's more, unlike porting v0.2.97.30/34 code to current fba, porting v0.2.97.36 code to current fba is something within my skills.

                                          Libretro developper :

                                          • FBAlpha FBNeo (Arcade)
                                          • Kronos (Sega Saturn/ST-V)
                                          • YabaSanshiro (Sega Saturn)
                                          • Reicast Flycast (Dreamcast/Naomi/AtomisWave)
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                                          • voljega
                                            voljega Banned @barbudreadmon last edited by

                                            @barbudreadmon said in FBA new core option:

                                            By the way, with latest commit, every control issue should be solved.

                                            What do you mean by that ? In which game for instance ?

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