Raspberry Pi 3B+ (Plus) - Compatible?

[hex12]

@substring newer emulator version are in plan? i am not telling about new platforms (systems) but new version of existing included emulators, like for PSP or Amiga or i don't know... And Thinkerboard will support same platform of Raspberry or also 3DO?

[Substring]

@hex12 regarding emulators update, mame2010 for sure, no idea for others. Probably rollback ppsspp as it gives many errors to people.

The roadmap is not done, this all depends on our free time.

[voljega]

@substring what is the update for mame2010 ?

[Substring]

@voljega hiscores update

[lhari84]

@substring
Can you please refine upon "work fine (but psp)"?
What I want to ask is, if you can see a visible perfmance increase on RP3 B+, for example when emulating N64, PSX (upscaled) and DC? If yes, also without overclocking?
Still not sure if I should buy the new Pi to replace the good old RP 3 B when new Recalbox version is out.. So this info really would help for a decision.
Many thanks in advance and as always: Great job!

[Substring]

@lhari84 so far only one person made some serious tests in the team and reported better performance. Still, i don't recommend you buy one as it would just sit on a shel for now if you just bought it for recalbox

[hex12]

@substring and as for tinker board? Can you please indicate which systems will be supported? In particular, i wished to know about Amiga, C64, 3DO and Saturn as i think that "based systems" such as SNES, Neo Geo, Megadrive, MAME etc will be supported with this new platform. I am really interested in tinker board because it seems powerful and good tests i could find for PSX and N64, but i wished a more clear look at it before deciding to buy or not, as i should buy it only for RecalBox. Thank you.

[lhari84]

@substring
Yeah, but I'm sure you will get it running, so I could buy it to be ready in some weeks or maybe months

But another thing, is it maybe better to wait for and switch to Tinker Board? I've just read that you are working on a version and it made me curious...
Will there be any disadvantage in comparison with Pi version?
Does it emulate much faster than the Pi, maybe with a recent Linux Kernel? (I think the old Kernel is one of the major problems for example on Odroid, if i understood correctly)

[gkralicek2]

@lhari84 Having tried the latest beta version of retropie as well as a "homemade" patched version of recalbox (lacking network support though), i can say that emulation perf is the same with Pi 3 B+ at stock frequency compared to a pi 3 overclocked @1400 Mhz (provided you got a decent heat cooling on the Pi3). Even when pushed at 1.6Ghz, i haven't noticed any drastic improvement with the Pi3 B+ regarding emulation. DC might gain a few fps but still not running full speed. Same with N64.
All in all what used to work perfectly with the Pi 3 still do with the new B+ and what used to be so-so still is in the same ballpark :). Status quo... Only real reason to switch from 3 to 3 B+ is the improved heat management and the better network transfer speed.

[voljega]

@hex12 amiga won't be on Tinkerboard

[hex12]

@voljega there is not a version of amiberry for this board? It should be a pity...

[voljega]

@hex12 I correct myself, found references in their issues that it is now supported, but then it doesn't mean that it will work on Recalbox, we'll have to try (well @substring will have to try )

[Substring]

Yeah, anyway anything new means "subs can you dont ?"...

[Substring]

Regarding tinkerboard, i just finished compiling it yesterday, so calm down your horses all, still much to go

[hex12]

@substring but which systems will be supported on tinker board compared to the ones supported in Pi3?

[Substring]

@hex12 for now i simply removed advancemame and mame2010. Everything is like pi3 for now. Id on't think i'll include kodi on the first releases, this mostly depends on the perfs.

But, just so that you ubderstand that you are being a little too pushy : i couldn't test emulators yet. RA couldn't start in the beginning, nor ES. I got RA launching 2 days ago (didn't even try a game, too early) and could finally get ES to start late this night.

This all takes much time, you really don't seem to realize ...

[hex12]

@substring that it takes a lot of time i realize, and your work is really great not only for tinker board, but for all recalbox that as for now is the best platform for me. I only was curious to know about this board which plans you were doing, as the board itself has a big power respect to Pi. I didn't want to put you in a hurry, just to understand the plans or the intentions. If my words brought to give another sensation i ask sorry for that, it was not my intention. I only wished to know if with the board and the emulators that actually are ported on it we could have the opportunity to play systems like 3DO that Pi actually can't play. Sorry again if my intentions appeared in a different way to you.

[eightkiller]

@Substring I got a question for you ^^ Did you try to stream moonlight on 1080p 60fps on the new 3B+ (in your internal testing ?), if so, is it still not powerful enough to handle it and we will have to stay in 720p or might we have a good surprise ?

[Substring]

@eightkiller errrrr ..... Have you missed the part where i said i don't have a 3b+ yet ?

[eightkiller]

@substring haha indeed I did ^^ xD