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    • Dragu
      Dragu Banned last edited by OyyoDams

      This is 1024x768

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      • Dragu
        Dragu Banned last edited by Dragu

        What you need apart recalbox 4.1 and dosbox :
        Some extensions to dosbox for the manipulations.
        xcopy and deltree are not existing under dosbox, you can download them here :
        http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/xcopy.html
        http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/deltree.html
        You will need also some .img disk for your stuff. 256MB will be enough for this windows95 version, and I also use 1GB .img disk for individual game data for the moment.
        Dosbox has no tool to make img's. But ready and empty image files can be downloaded here :
        https://sites.google.com/site/dotalshoff/games/dosbox

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        • Dragu
          Dragu Banned last edited by Dragu

          Next, the software. To install windows, we need first a running Microsoft DOS, dosbox will not be enough. So first, to download, a 622 MSDOS floppy img file
          dosbox95.darktraveler.com/downloads/622c.exe (622c.img)
          that you copy to your .pc folder.
          Next you need the installation files for Windows95 floppy version OSR2 38MB, the smallest from this page (the files are totaly legal) First link on the page
          https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-95/osr-2
          Unpack everything inside also the floppy images and copy to a directory WIN95F ?
          Transfer this directoy also to your .pc folder.

          Next download, the special S3 graphic driver that allows other resolution. The onboard S3 from Microsoft will not work. My S3 drivers are here :
          https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw4WQf**KImBRDN6bXNXOVU3T3c/view
          You must unload the S3D.zip into an S3D ? directory and transfer to the .pc folder.
          By the way, the S3Trio64 drivers are not working.

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          • rockaddicted
            rockaddicted last edited by

            Windows in my little linux recalbox baby...
            I will try to don't vomit every time I will see this post πŸ˜„

            Anyway, good job @Dragu

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            • Dragu
              Dragu Banned last edited by Dragu

              Before transfering your windows image disk rename hdd-256mb.img to something as w95f.img.
              Next step, is configuration and about the autoexec section of dosbox.cfg.
              You must alter it a few times with progress.

              [autoexec]
              # Lines in this section will be run at startup.
              # You can put your MOUNT lines here.
              mount d "/recalbox/share/roms/dos/nukemMP.pc"
              D:
              # imgmount 0 622c.img -t floppy -fs none
              # imgmount 2 w95f.img -size 512,63,16,520 -t hdd -fs none
              imgmount c w95f.img
              # imgmount 3 data.img -size 512,63,64,520 -t hdd -fs none
              

              This will make the w95f image disk accessible for dosbox (D:) as πŸ˜„
              Start dosbox, go to πŸ˜„ and mkdir WIN95F or what you want.
              CD WIN95F
              d:xcopy d:\WIN95F /h /e /i
              The files from D:WIN95F should be transfered to C:WIN95F
              Make the same with S3D directory existing on 😧
              You have now everything what you need on w95f.img.

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              • Dragu
                Dragu Banned last edited by

                We leave dosbox Ctrl+F9 or "exit".
                New edit and download to .pc of dosbox.cfg

                [autoexec]
                # Lines in this section will be run at startup.
                # You can put your MOUNT lines here.
                mount d "/recalbox/share/roms/dos/nukemMP.pc"
                D:
                imgmount 0 622c.img -t floppy -fs none
                imgmount 2 w95f.img -size 512,63,16,520 -t hdd -fs none
                # imgmount c w95f.img
                # imgmount 3 data.img -size 512,63,64,520 -t hdd -fs none
                

                It is not possible to access for the moment the data on .PC with this configuration.
                Now we boot from dosbox to dos with the command
                boot -l a (a for floppy)
                He tell us something about tomatoes and an not important error, everything normal.
                We go to the w95f.img disk.
                πŸ˜„
                CD WIN95F and here we run setup
                setup /nm /is

                Our installation should start and bring the need to restart a few times and sure with some errors...
                For restart as windows is basic installed, every time you start dosbox,
                boot -l c

                When the conditions exist to access the drivers in the system from control panel, desactivate printer and serial ports. Also in safemode.
                When the installation is stable, you can replace the S3 standart with the S3 display driver from the directory S3D.
                Ther may exist other that work, a lot of job ahead. Directx and so on.
                If a usable w95f.img exist, possible just to copy it in every game directory where it is needed.
                That was it, good luck.

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                • voljega
                  voljega Banned @Dragu last edited by voljega

                  @dragu didn't understand much but I guess I'll have to try πŸ˜‰

                  copying the win95 in every game folder is fine, but ExO renounced it for his future win9x collection especially because it would take so much place even for just ten games

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                  • Dragu
                    Dragu Banned @voljega last edited by Dragu

                    @voljega
                    Not so difficult and sure need your help. Alternate S3 display driver that include all resolutions and not one at the time and so on. For the place, 256MB is not so hudge, because also for Dosbox alone, if you have a game that want to look for control on the CD, like the LBA's, this images are mostly bigger. But also necessary to check if it is gadget or can be used for games.
                    I started this for DN Manhattan Project. I will see if it works.

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                    • voljega
                      voljega Banned @Dragu last edited by

                      @dragu yeah but the exodos collection is 3600 games and has a total size of 380Go, imagine if you add 256mb to each game πŸ˜‰

                      And it's likely that a collection of every win95 and win98 game released would count twice as much games

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                      • Dragu
                        Dragu Banned last edited by

                        If the alternate is play or stay, I am ready to sweep my 256GB SSD for a 1Tetra SSD. Prices will fall. πŸ™‚

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                        • Dragu
                          Dragu Banned last edited by OyyoDams

                          I managed to install working Trio display driver, so better to copy also this folder from the beginning on the w95f.img. They are here :
                          http://dosbox95.darktraveler.com/downloads/S3Trio64.exe
                          And they are compatible with directx. I just installed Directx8, and all tests with dxdiag (after install in /windows/system) are working, 3D and sound checks also. The cube

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                          • Dragu
                            Dragu Banned last edited by Dragu

                            Now also the rare bluescreen error at shutdown disappear. It is necessary to fix 2 more entries. First, after disabling all ports inclusive game port, it needs an automatic hardware scan to take the joystick out of the hardware profil.
                            We need here no joystick, as dosbox can map the full keyboard to the recalbox joysticks.
                            Second thing, this floppy version of W95 defines no harddisk in the devices. But it has the ISA drivers in the system devices. So just make new hardware scan and indicate by yourself that you want to add ISA harddisk. It works.

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                            • MikaXII
                              MikaXII Staff last edited by

                              Hoo... Windows95 on recalbox, you break my heart ^^.
                              @Dragu congrat for your amazing works πŸ™‚

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                              mika@recalbox.com

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                              • daminoutav
                                daminoutav last edited by daminoutav

                                Amazing job ! Congrat πŸ™‚

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                                • Dragu
                                  Dragu Banned @daminoutav last edited by OyyoDams

                                  Thanks, but nothing so great, I build an early Webbox for TV, also based on W95 and Opera, long time ago. So some staying experience also.
                                  For 3D, this will not be a runner on PI3. Normal because just software emulation, there is no sight from a 3D graphic card.
                                  But some pure window games should run. Here as example Lemmings for windows.

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                                  • Dragu
                                    Dragu Banned last edited by OyyoDams

                                    I dont wanted to make you vomit more,
                                    but there is an existing scraper file for Billy's Club. πŸ™‚

                                    Anyway, I am finished. I defined an empty 2GB Disk Data1, that opens as 😧
                                    and possible to define Data2, Data3 and so on for games.
                                    This is a fresh new clean installation.

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                                    • rockaddicted
                                      rockaddicted last edited by

                                      Haha you killed me dude...
                                      Next Windows Millenium ?!

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                                      • MikaXII
                                        MikaXII Staff last edited by

                                        Haha I work at IBM, I need that ^^

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                                        mika@recalbox.com

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                                        • Cthulhus
                                          Cthulhus last edited by

                                          Hello ! Fantastic job ! I followed step by step your tutorial and I was able to install Win95. but, for unknown reason, I have a black screen few sec after the windows loading screen (with the animated bar on the bottom). any idea to fix that issue ?

                                          Thanks

                                          C'Γ©tait mieux avant :-)

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                                          • Dragu
                                            Dragu Banned last edited by Dragu

                                            @Cthulhus
                                            This can be a lot of things. Probably drivers that should not be loaded, printer, serials.
                                            You can verify if you arrive to this state and try to start windows in safemode. This means F5 during the first screen or F8 what brings you a selection menu with also safemode. But in safemode you can disable drivers in Control Panel.

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