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    • azvarel
      azvarel last edited by azvarel

      I'm having serious issues with Ginga Fukei Densetsu - Sapphire (NTSC-J), and Super Daisenryaku (NTSC-J) and they just do not work.

      alt text
      I do not have a head as hard as Bonks

      ISO AND CUE FILES
      I found it to be a problem with the ISO file, I checked the CUE files, I downloaded these games on several sites, I opened an issue in github and in the end @acris helped me and sent me the ISO that I had and it's the same as I have and anyway did not work.
      Since she suspects the BIOS now, since all other games work except these two.

      ISO
      Ginga_Fukei_Densetsu_-_Sapphire_(NTSC-J)_[HCD5080].iso renamed Saphire.iso

      CUE

      FILE "Sapphire.iso" BINARY
        TRACK 01 AUDIO
          INDEX 01 00:00:00
        TRACK 02 MODE1/2352
          PREGAP 00:03:00
          INDEX 01 00:44:65
        TRACK 03 AUDIO
          PREGAP 00:02:00
          INDEX 01 02:26:14
        TRACK 04 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 06:27:70
          INDEX 01 06:27:73
        TRACK 05 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 10:30:42
          INDEX 01 10:30:45
        TRACK 06 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 14:32:26
          INDEX 01 14:32:29
        TRACK 07 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 18:34:45
          INDEX 01 18:34:48
        TRACK 08 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 22:37:23
          INDEX 01 22:37:26
        TRACK 09 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 24:38:72
          INDEX 01 24:39:00
        TRACK 10 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 26:41:71
          INDEX 01 26:41:74
        TRACK 11 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 28:43:34
          INDEX 01 28:43:37
        TRACK 12 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 29:16:61
          INDEX 01 29:16:64
        TRACK 13 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 29:49:46
          INDEX 01 29:49:49
        TRACK 14 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 30:51:23
          INDEX 01 30:51:26
        TRACK 15 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 32:03:30
          INDEX 01 32:03:33
        TRACK 16 AUDIO
          INDEX 00 33:33:04
          INDEX 01 33:33:07
        TRACK 17 MODE1/2352
          PREGAP 00:03:00
          INDEX 01 36:45:31
      

      MD5
      I checked the md5 of the syscard3.pce BIOS file its MD5 is ff1a674273fe3540ccef576376407d1d and is OK. (You can do the test here: http://onlinemd5.com/)

      BIOS
      Even if I changed the BIOS for the ones I downloaded and the games were still not working, I decided to test the 2.0 and 1.0 versions of the BIOS.

      Version 1.0
      BIOS screen
      alt text

      And loading the game appears NOW LOADING IN THE GAME and returns to the ES.

      Version 2.1
      BIOS screen
      alt text

      and loading the game appears this image I believe it is to put the supercard, or something like (I do not understand anything Japanese)
      alt text

      Version 3.0
      Which is the indicated BIOS version displays your BIOS screen
      And loading the game appears NOW NOW LOADING and returns to the ES.

      REFERENCE
      https://github.com/recalbox/recalbox-os/wiki/Add-system-bios-(EN)
      https://forums.libretro.com/t/mednafen-pce-turbografx-cd-vs-super-cd-rom-2-bios-screens/5700
      https://github.com/libretro/Lakka/wiki/BIOSes
      https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/PC-Engine
      https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/7564/turbografx-16-only-a-few-roms-running <-- This had the same problem that I am having being with other games and did not see how it was solved.

      HELP ME
      Who can help me, see if these games run on their recalbox and report the following:

      Recalbox Version: (4.0 or 4.1 unstable)
      Hardware: (rpi2, rpi3, odroid or pc)
      Core Emulator:
      MD5 Bios:
      The game to be tested is: Ginga Fukei Densetsu - Sapphire (NTSC-J), do not forget!

      Thank you all and thank you @acris, for the patience once again.

      Zodian Theme | #SNESProject

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      • acris
        acris last edited by acris

        Hello @azvarel

        emulator : default ?
        Core : default ?

        you said

        Ginga_Fukei_Densetsu_-Sapphire(NTSC-J)_[HCD5080].iso renamed Saphire.iso

        FILE "Sapphire.iso" BINARY
        

        Not same name, missing p : Sapphire.iso

        Do you have delete your gamelist.xml ?
        Do you use mode gamelist_only ? If yes, disabled.

        Do you have fresh install on new microsd ?
        directly with recalbox 4.1 unstable image ?

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        • azvarel
          azvarel @acris last edited by azvarel

          @acris typing error, while doing the topic


          see the "loading" for 1/2 a second and then goes back to ES

          emulator: defaul
          core: default

          I'm suspecting a problem with the core or the pcenginecd emulator folder.
          Because it does not make sense, I used your bios, your iso and it still did not work.
          Other games that use supercard like Akumajou Dracula - Chi no Rondo, it works, Sylphia also works, but this blessed Sapphire does not work

          dmesg https://pastebin.com/aWJTr36J

          Zodian Theme | #SNESProject

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          • azvarel
            azvarel @acris last edited by

            Continue...

            Do you have delete your gamelist.xml ?

            yes

            Do you use mode gamelist_only ? If yes, disabled.

            disable

            Do you have fresh install on new microsd ?

            Last install was from 4.0 beta 5, upgraded to 4.0.1 and then to unstable 4.1

            directly with recalbox 4.1 unstable image ?

            I have not tried with direct image

            Zodian Theme | #SNESProject

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            • acris
              acris last edited by acris

              Try with another microsd and download img recalbox
              https://archive.recalbox.com/updates/v1.0/unstable/
              And transfert only this game and bios.

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              • azvarel
                azvarel @acris last edited by

                @acris I tried with another microsd the img, copied its iso and its bios and it did not work. 😞

                Zodian Theme | #SNESProject

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                • azvarel
                  azvarel last edited by azvarel

                  @acris

                  I discard BIOS problem because I used several BIOS, such as version 3.0
                  A hack version of 3.0 that already opens the game directly, without the need to appear the bios screen, and version 4.1 derp also made by a hack that includes support for extended memory and supports Medanfen, all games work except Ginga Fukei Densetsu - Sapphire (NTSC-J), that I can see the "loading" for 1/2 second and then back to ES.

                  A great friend who lives in Japan was able to generate a pro clonecd image and sent me Super Daisenryaku (NTSC-J) and when testing here on the recalbox it worked, then we verified that it is a .iso file problem

                  In search of other alternatives with Sapphire.

                  Zodian Theme | #SNESProject

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                  • azvarel
                    azvarel last edited by

                    i found this: https://forums.libretro.com/t/pce-fast-core-doesnt-work-with-aracde-cd-system-games-standalone-mednafen-does/4849/10

                    Zodian Theme | #SNESProject

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                    • azvarel
                      azvarel last edited by

                      @acris @Substring Help me?

                      log
                      https://pastebin.com/JFX1nDPg

                      Zodian Theme | #SNESProject

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                      • azvarel
                        azvarel last edited by

                        BAD NEWS

                        To my sadness, it's all ACD (Arcade CD) games that are not working,

                        LIST OF GAMES
                        Battlefield '94 in Tokyo Dome [FCCD4001]
                        Fire Pro Jyoshi - Dome Chojyo Taisen [HMCD 4008]
                        Garou Densetsu II - Aratanaru Tatakai [HCD4060]
                        Garou Densetsu Special [HCD4067]
                        Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire [HCD5080]
                        Janshin Densetsu - Quest of Jongmaster [HECD5016]
                        Mad Stalker - Full Metal Force [HECD4009]
                        Madou Monogatari I - Honou no Sotsuenji [NAPR-1047]
                        Ryuuko no Ken [HCD4061]
                        Strider Hiryuu [NAPR-1041]
                        Tengai Makyo - Kabuki Itouryodan [HCD5070]
                        World Heroes II [HCD4063]

                        I'm not sleeping, downloading iso in every possible way, my last attempt was to convert to OGG, WAVE files and edit the .cue and without success.

                        I do not even know what else to do.

                        The strangest thing is that in the log it appears normal, we loaded the ARCADE CARD

                        RetroArch [libretro INFO] :: MDFN_MakeFName: /recalbox/share/bios/syscard3.pce
                        RetroArch [libretro INFO] :: Arcade Card Emulation:  Enabled
                        

                        Zodian Theme | #SNESProject

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                        • acris
                          acris last edited by acris

                          I Have no problem with all theses games, it's work on my raspberry pi 3

                          Please post your support file : https://github.com/recalbox/recalbox-os/wiki/Recalbox-support-(EN)

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                          • azvarel
                            azvarel @acris last edited by

                            @acris

                            It will not be necessary.

                            after a user in the forum of the libretro said that my isos were corrupted, which was not true, I decided to redo the cue files, that for some reason the cue files were with some synchronization problem, then I followed the cue available in www.necstasy.net and with the isobuster, I managed to let it work.

                            Thank you again for your help and for your willingness.

                            Cheers,
                            Azvarel

                            Zodian Theme | #SNESProject

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                            • kelv
                              kelv last edited by

                              @azvarel Pls could you share the cue with me? I'm having same issue.... THX

                              Raspberry Pi model: RPi 3b+
                              Recalbox build : 7.0.1 DragonBlaze
                              Hardware: MicroSD UHS 128 GB up to 80 MB, Class 10 and 2.5 A Power Supply.
                              Overclocked: 1485 MHZ
                              Controller(s): Wired Xbox 360 PAD (working perfectly on any other game/emulator).

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                              • kelv
                                kelv last edited by

                                Any, insight on this? I have new cue file and new iso and it's still failing... is it needed any special bios?

                                THX!!!

                                Raspberry Pi model: RPi 3b+
                                Recalbox build : 7.0.1 DragonBlaze
                                Hardware: MicroSD UHS 128 GB up to 80 MB, Class 10 and 2.5 A Power Supply.
                                Overclocked: 1485 MHZ
                                Controller(s): Wired Xbox 360 PAD (working perfectly on any other game/emulator).

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                                • kelv
                                  kelv last edited by

                                  @azvarel THX SO MUCH. The issue was because of the rewind setting.... AFter disabling it, it worked. I can't believe it.

                                  Raspberry Pi model: RPi 3b+
                                  Recalbox build : 7.0.1 DragonBlaze
                                  Hardware: MicroSD UHS 128 GB up to 80 MB, Class 10 and 2.5 A Power Supply.
                                  Overclocked: 1485 MHZ
                                  Controller(s): Wired Xbox 360 PAD (working perfectly on any other game/emulator).

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