Serious problems when running some PC Engine CD games

  • Themer

    I'm having serious issues with Ginga Fukei Densetsu - Sapphire (NTSC-J), and Super Daisenryaku (NTSC-J) and they just do not work.

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    I do not have a head as hard as Bonks

    I found it to be a problem with the ISO file, I checked the CUE files, I downloaded these games on several sites, I opened an issue in github and in the end @acris helped me and sent me the ISO that I had and it's the same as I have and anyway did not work.
    Since she suspects the BIOS now, since all other games work except these two.

    Ginga_Fukei_Densetsu_-_Sapphire_(NTSC-J)_[HCD5080].iso renamed Saphire.iso


    FILE "Sapphire.iso" BINARY
      TRACK 01 AUDIO
        INDEX 01 00:00:00
      TRACK 02 MODE1/2352
        PREGAP 00:03:00
        INDEX 01 00:44:65
      TRACK 03 AUDIO
        PREGAP 00:02:00
        INDEX 01 02:26:14
      TRACK 04 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 06:27:70
        INDEX 01 06:27:73
      TRACK 05 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 10:30:42
        INDEX 01 10:30:45
      TRACK 06 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 14:32:26
        INDEX 01 14:32:29
      TRACK 07 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 18:34:45
        INDEX 01 18:34:48
      TRACK 08 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 22:37:23
        INDEX 01 22:37:26
      TRACK 09 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 24:38:72
        INDEX 01 24:39:00
      TRACK 10 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 26:41:71
        INDEX 01 26:41:74
      TRACK 11 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 28:43:34
        INDEX 01 28:43:37
      TRACK 12 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 29:16:61
        INDEX 01 29:16:64
      TRACK 13 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 29:49:46
        INDEX 01 29:49:49
      TRACK 14 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 30:51:23
        INDEX 01 30:51:26
      TRACK 15 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 32:03:30
        INDEX 01 32:03:33
      TRACK 16 AUDIO
        INDEX 00 33:33:04
        INDEX 01 33:33:07
      TRACK 17 MODE1/2352
        PREGAP 00:03:00
        INDEX 01 36:45:31

    I checked the md5 of the syscard3.pce BIOS file its MD5 is ff1a674273fe3540ccef576376407d1d and is OK. (You can do the test here:

    Even if I changed the BIOS for the ones I downloaded and the games were still not working, I decided to test the 2.0 and 1.0 versions of the BIOS.

    Version 1.0
    BIOS screen
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    And loading the game appears NOW LOADING IN THE GAME and returns to the ES.

    Version 2.1
    BIOS screen
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    and loading the game appears this image I believe it is to put the supercard, or something like (I do not understand anything Japanese)
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    Version 3.0
    Which is the indicated BIOS version displays your BIOS screen
    And loading the game appears NOW NOW LOADING and returns to the ES.

    REFERENCE <-- This had the same problem that I am having being with other games and did not see how it was solved.

    Who can help me, see if these games run on their recalbox and report the following:

    Recalbox Version: (4.0 or 4.1 unstable)
    Hardware: (rpi2, rpi3, odroid or pc)
    Core Emulator:
    MD5 Bios:
    The game to be tested is: Ginga Fukei Densetsu - Sapphire (NTSC-J), do not forget!

    Thank you all and thank you @acris, for the patience once again.

  • Staff
    Global moderator

    Hello @azvarel

    emulator : default ?
    Core : default ?

    you said

    Ginga_Fukei_Densetsu_-Sapphire(NTSC-J)_[HCD5080].iso renamed Saphire.iso

    FILE "Sapphire.iso" BINARY

    Not same name, missing p : Sapphire.iso

    Do you have delete your gamelist.xml ?
    Do you use mode gamelist_only ? If yes, disabled.

    Do you have fresh install on new microsd ?
    directly with recalbox 4.1 unstable image ?

  • Themer

    @acris typing error, while doing the topic

    see the "loading" for 1/2 a second and then goes back to ES

    emulator: defaul
    core: default

    I'm suspecting a problem with the core or the pcenginecd emulator folder.
    Because it does not make sense, I used your bios, your iso and it still did not work.
    Other games that use supercard like Akumajou Dracula - Chi no Rondo, it works, Sylphia also works, but this blessed Sapphire does not work


  • Themer


    Do you have delete your gamelist.xml ?


    Do you use mode gamelist_only ? If yes, disabled.


    Do you have fresh install on new microsd ?

    Last install was from 4.0 beta 5, upgraded to 4.0.1 and then to unstable 4.1

    directly with recalbox 4.1 unstable image ?

    I have not tried with direct image

  • Staff
    Global moderator

    Try with another microsd and download img recalbox
    And transfert only this game and bios.

  • Themer

    @acris I tried with another microsd the img, copied its iso and its bios and it did not work. 😞

  • Themer


    I discard BIOS problem because I used several BIOS, such as version 3.0
    A hack version of 3.0 that already opens the game directly, without the need to appear the bios screen, and version 4.1 derp also made by a hack that includes support for extended memory and supports Medanfen, all games work except Ginga Fukei Densetsu - Sapphire (NTSC-J), that I can see the "loading" for 1/2 second and then back to ES.

    A great friend who lives in Japan was able to generate a pro clonecd image and sent me Super Daisenryaku (NTSC-J) and when testing here on the recalbox it worked, then we verified that it is a .iso file problem

    In search of other alternatives with Sapphire.

  • Themer

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  • Themer


    To my sadness, it's all ACD (Arcade CD) games that are not working,

    Battlefield '94 in Tokyo Dome [FCCD4001]
    Fire Pro Jyoshi - Dome Chojyo Taisen [HMCD 4008]
    Garou Densetsu II - Aratanaru Tatakai [HCD4060]
    Garou Densetsu Special [HCD4067]
    Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire [HCD5080]
    Janshin Densetsu - Quest of Jongmaster [HECD5016]
    Mad Stalker - Full Metal Force [HECD4009]
    Madou Monogatari I - Honou no Sotsuenji [NAPR-1047]
    Ryuuko no Ken [HCD4061]
    Strider Hiryuu [NAPR-1041]
    Tengai Makyo - Kabuki Itouryodan [HCD5070]
    World Heroes II [HCD4063]

    I'm not sleeping, downloading iso in every possible way, my last attempt was to convert to OGG, WAVE files and edit the .cue and without success.

    I do not even know what else to do.

    The strangest thing is that in the log it appears normal, we loaded the ARCADE CARD

    RetroArch [libretro INFO] :: MDFN_MakeFName: /recalbox/share/bios/syscard3.pce
    RetroArch [libretro INFO] :: Arcade Card Emulation:  Enabled

  • Staff
    Global moderator

    I Have no problem with all theses games, it's work on my raspberry pi 3

    Please post your support file :

  • Themer


    It will not be necessary.

    after a user in the forum of the libretro said that my isos were corrupted, which was not true, I decided to redo the cue files, that for some reason the cue files were with some synchronization problem, then I followed the cue available in and with the isobuster, I managed to let it work.

    Thank you again for your help and for your willingness.


  • @azvarel Pls could you share the cue with me? I'm having same issue.... THX

  • Any, insight on this? I have new cue file and new iso and it's still failing... is it needed any special bios?


  • @azvarel THX SO MUCH. The issue was because of the rewind setting.... AFter disabling it, it worked. I can't believe it.

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